I wore them on my downtown 350 two months ago and I did 1500 km with the idea that they are specifically for water because I ride in winter, summer with the scooter and with the first rain I was amazed at how much they slip like a tire... I have never put on worse tires. I had read a review saying the same thing but I had doubts until I experienced it myself. The bad thing is that they do not cover the replacement of the vulcanizer and I have to pay for new tires again