E-Fun Tiger Electric Scooter Power 7000W with Top Speed 108km/h Autonomy 250km Gray Color
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Tiger Electric Scooter Power 7000W with Top Speed 108km/h Autonomy 250km Gray Color
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Description
- 7kw QS motor
- Top speed: 108 km/h
- Range: 200 km
- Comfortable seat for 2 people
- Battery: 72V - 80Ah CATL 3000+ full charge cycles
- Reverse: yes
- Brakes: CBS disc brakes front and rear
- Charging time: 4 hours, full charge, fast charger option for 2 hours full charge
- Display: LCD
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Specifications
- Type
- Electric Scooter
- Max Speed
- 108 km/h
- Vehicle Type
- Scooter
- Engine Power
- 7000 W
- Autonomy
- 250 km
- Driving Without License
- No
- Colour
- Gray
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A few words about who I am: I have been involved with high-performance electric scooters for a few years. I have been playing with lithium batteries (and building battery packs) for many years. I have also been building electric bikes for a few years... I really like electric vehicles and have done a lot of research and hands-on work in the whole technology.
The 2 stars are only for someone knowledgeable about the "electric" subject. A regular buyer might give it 4 stars.
Now regarding the tiger after 3000km:
I knew what I was buying. A Chinese electric scooter with somewhat decent Chinese battery. I wasn't expecting miracles. However:Positives:
• Decent, easy handling while driving, it’s not terrible.
• It pulls reasonably well, has no issues on inclines, etc... Up to 100-110 km/h on most roads it will take you. On a long and somewhat steep incline that most vehicles struggle with, I guess it might go 60-70 km/h.
• Relatively nice and low key. It doesn’t really look electric. The new model has a different appearance from the old one.
• It doesn’t creak much... the windscreen might resonate a bit in some potholes, but generally, it doesn’t creak. Very important for an electric vehicle. (without the luggage rack it doesn’t creak, with the luggage rack it’s a rattle)Medium Points:
• Brakes. They are not amazing... Decent. There is also electronic braking assistance which helps a bit... The new model I got has ABS. Personally, in emergency situations I found myself in, the scooter stopped, but with significant uncertainty... The electronic braking probably has levels; when you pull the lever hard, it gives it all. However, there is a slight delay. Additionally, its own brakes are not particularly strong. If it didn’t have electronic braking, the vehicle probably wouldn’t stop (and don’t listen to the shopkeeper saying it doesn’t have... it does...). So it relies heavily on that, and this thing has a slight delay. It causes some uncertainty in sudden braking. As for the ABS, mixed feelings... If you brake and there are little potholes, goodnight... it does more harm than good there. On a smooth road, it works beautifully though.
• Suspension. They do their job. The rear ones told me they can be changed if I want something better. The front ones said no. I honestly have no idea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Since they work somewhat well, they are good.
• Warranty. They don’t shout it out, but besides the battery, the rest only have 2 years.Negatives:
• According to a friend who rides motorcycles, he got on to ride it and found the vehicle to be extremely unstable, something strange he says is going on. Personally, I have been riding weird vehicles for years, I didn’t notice anything... But it’s definitely not well set up. It has steering wobble if you let go of the handlebars at any speed and whatever pressure the tires have...
• Size. Somehow, I don’t know how, I ended up riding a scooter that was much smaller than I expected. What do I mean? Before ordering the Tiger, I went to a dealership, I had tried it, I had gotten on it. I consider myself short. The Tiger I tried was probably too big for me. Just barely my feet touch the ground properly, the handlebars a bit far, etc...
I decide to order it because for the budget electric scooter I couldn’t find anything better. They inform me that the order I made will come with the new model with only differences being the ABS and some things in the motor. I say okay... I take the scooter and realize from the first kilometers that I am way too close to the handlebars...
For me personally, this is not a problem. As I said, I am short. It came pretty much to my measurements and I can easily get used to the damaged vehicles anyway. But what happens if someone is of normal height or God forbid tall? xD A friend who is considered borderline tall found his knees :) The seat has specific limits, you can't sit further back. That's how most scooters are anyway... But the bike is small. Nothing like the previous Tiger... So you tall people, it's probably not for you...
• Tires. Of course, you change them upon purchase.
• LIGHTS. The lights are ridiculous. One LED on each side. It barely illuminates on the "middle setting." I have the impression that sometimes they don't see me coming and they jump out in the narrow streets... That's the impression I've gotten from the surprised faces of drivers who made the mistake. The big lights, a bit meh again, but in the city, you'll blind people... I asked a seller and he told me that they don't change if I want to put something better. I see other scooters next to me and their middle lights illuminate the whole road. I see mine and I have some poorly diffused light lines showing on the road without any particular illumination. In my opinion, unsuitable.
• Battery. Forget about the 200 and 250 km autonomy... Forget about the 8 years warranty... Some facts: The bike gets 130 km at an outside temperature of 6-7°C. Slightly higher temperatures will give a bit more autonomy. This at level 3 and if you lightly chase it. For me, this matters. If I put it on level 1, yes, it will give me 200+ km, but I will be going like an electric bicycle. At level 2, it might get 170 km, but you'll feel like you're on an 80cc moped.
8 YEAR WARRANTY. HA! Marketing nonsense... or 80,000 km (which is very little for 8 years). If you do what I do, which is 100 km a day, in about 3 years you'll hit 80,000 km. However, not everyone is like that. If you ask the store, they will tell you that the battery will be at 50% health after those 8 years. If you drop below 50% before the 8 years, it covers you, let's say. How they will measure that is another story xD Below 80%, lithium batteries are practically considered useless. They lose tremendous autonomy from that point on. So roughly at 6 years, the battery will have dropped below 80% and in the next 1-2 years, it will be nearing 50%.
After another 1-2 years, don't expect the battery to last regardless of autonomy. Cells will start to die. All of this, based on the funny 50% they told me.
Oh! And one more thing... To achieve this 8 years, they don't allow the battery to drop below ~40%.
And the very silly: At the fictional 20%, you start losing a lot of power and a bit of speed, at 18% you lose a lot of power and quite a bit of speed, at 17% you're going at 50 km/h, at 16% at 40, at 15% it’s struggling and you’re going at 20-25 on flat ground. Yes, I was stuck xD There was a gas station there and I begged to charge. I looked at the cell voltage when I was stuck and it was at 3.5V. Seriously, are you kidding us? Even down to 3V is totally safe for Li-Ion batteries... At 2.5V it's the absolute 0%...A few more words:
How many cycles does it have? Oh yes, 3000+ xD The Li-Ion batteries that the bike uses in the BEST CASE give 1000 cycles and only if we are talking about top-of-the-line cells. Let's do some math. How many km does it get on a single charge? About 150.
80,000/150=~500 charging cycles.
500 full charging cycles (0-100%) not half (40-100%) as in this case. And also, if we're talking about a battery that will have 80% health at the end of its cycles, not 50%. So we are talking about 60% from the 500 cycles (not 0-100% but 40-100%), 300 charging cycles, and 50% health, not 80%. So about 20-25% fewer cycles. 250 real charging cycles.
Another 3000+, another 250 charging cycles.
The battery dies in 2 years with intense, but normal use (daily draining). Hell, you can even do this in 1 year (going 150km away, charging, and returning daily, 5 days a week). And as you can see, the math adds up. Both for the fact that the battery does not drop below 40%, and for the 250 cycles. This is clearly evidenced by the just 80,000 km...
• No accuracy in the battery percentage. From 100% to 90% you get 35km. From 90-80% about 20.
From 80-15% about 80. And in reality, 15% is 0% since the scooter practically stops moving. You turn it off at 15%, you turn it back on after a while at 8%. Stupidly-calibrated BMS...
• Locked BMS and intimidating sellers. Both the calibration for the percentage and the fact that the battery does not discharge below 40% change if you have the code for the BMS. Do I have the code? Maybe :) Will I mess with it? Maybe :) But the sellers after the purchase practically told me "don't you dare mess with it because you automatically lose the warranty". Um... There is a pan-European court ruling that refers to the right to repair. Practically, you can do whatever you want to the vehicle, as long as you don't cause damage. Now if the company promises 8 years warranty on a battery that is for 5 because it locked it, but legally gives you the option to unlock it, it is not considered damage but proper use...
• Power. Vehicle sellers promised 18kW power. Because the BMS is 250A. xD Okay, but it's locked, brother... Theoretically, when charged, the vehicle goes up to 21kW, but it won't give more than 150A... And not at 84V, 81.6 is fully charged. So ~12kW power. Nothing to do with the dreamy 21kW.
For me, this was and is a messed-up situation that they threw at me right after the purchase was completed "You can't mess with settings, no! While before "Yes, yes, 18kW, 21kW"...
All good...
You might ask what I need the 28 horses for... Exactly because I have been playing with electric vehicles for so many years, I knew more or less what performance the vehicle would have at 21kW with this weight... And I didn't get that performance... And because I am used to rapid speed increases and this doesn't give me that, I get a bit annoyed...
Practically, I can mess with it and instead of the battery lasting "8 years" it lasts "6 years". Anyway, in 3 years I will have hit 80,000km. Practically, it will yield 73,000km unlocked... 10% loss for almost double the power... But I can't. Because anything that breaks will make them say "ah, you messed with it, you don't have a warranty". Which legally doesn't hold, but I'm not going to take it to court... So I have no desire to figure things out, so I won't mess with it... When we hit 80,000km and go for a battery change, either I make my own pack and know exactly the specifications and unlock everything, or I buy from them, I'll see how I feel then...
• Generally, they will tell you it's a beast, very fast, 18kW xD It's not... It's around 12kW and programmed to gradually increase. If you have ridden an unlocked wild electric motorcycle, no comparison xD 0-100 about 7-8 seconds. Nothing crazy. Can it do it in 4-5? Maybe :) But it's locked. So adjust your expectations.All in all, it's decent. It does its job. But it's not what the seller promises you. They will promise you the moon, so adjust your expectations beforehand. For nearly €6000 that you will spend, it would have been better to get what they promised you, but what can you do... Unfortunately, in the Greek market, at this price, there is the Tiger and the Scorpio. The Scorpio is a bit faster, but it doesn't have the same range ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And supposedly not the same warranty either... If this is going to die in 3 years, I dread to imagine how soon the Scorpio will die :')
There are other things I could write, but they are technically silly little issues that concern me, not the majority of people. This review was from the perspective of a burnt-out tech enthusiast, not a motorcycle rider. Motorcycle riders will surely find more to say.
Translated from Greek ·Did you find this review helpful?- 2022-10-30Expert userThis review is about the colour: Red
The first 1,000 kilometers have been completed. I have been the owner of the economical model with an 80Ah battery for about a month.
I will analyze my experience so far and will provide an update at 5,000 kilometers.
- Speed. This vehicle is FAST, and when I say fast, I mean that even 250cc scooters are left behind at the traffic light until 80 km/h. However, it is classified as a 125cc, but my insurance classified it as a 150cc. Its torque is constant from 0 to 80 km/h. Above 80 km/h, it gradually decreases until it reaches 110 km/h. The throttle response is very sharp and requires getting used to because it is instantaneous. It easily climbs steep hills where other scooters struggle and the motor heats up.
- Range. I haven't tried to fully deplete the battery, but I can confidently say it can go 100 km without any economy and with full throttle (always with safety precautions). With a calm hand and low city speeds, I believe it can reach 150 km. Charging takes about 5 hours from empty. However, there is also a fast charger that I have installed, which takes about 1.5 hours to charge from 50% to full.
- Excellent handling. It is perfectly balanced with a low center of gravity. It is a bit slow in maneuvering at low speeds, but performs exceptionally well on larger roads at 40 km/h and above.
- Brakes. Let me provide a brief analysis for this. The right lever activates the regenerative electronic brake as soon as you lightly press it, which slows down the scooter like releasing the throttle in 3rd gear. This also slightly charges the battery (barely noticeable). When you press the lever a bit more, both pistons of the front brake engage, which stops the vehicle comfortably, but it doesn't provide the best feel. The left lever activates the electronic brake with a light press. With a slightly stronger press, both rear pistons and one front piston from the triple-piston caliper engage. This brake is called CBS (combined brake system), which is compliant with EU regulations and can be found in many electric vehicles. Its effectiveness is very good, and when you press it, the scooter stops with a smaller chance of wheel lock and skid. When both levers are pressed together, all the brakes (5 pistons and the electronic brake) stop the scooter in a very short time. It does not have ABS.
- Suspension. This is its weak point, and I would recommend an upgrade, which I am planning to do once I am sure they won't improve within the next 1000-1500 kilometers. It is compatible with other brands, but I am still researching to find the YSS model that fits.
- Material quality. It is moderate, but overall okay. I would easily compare it to DAYTONA.
- Appearance. Objectively, it looks nice, but it has a slightly outdated design from 4-5 years ago. It is basically a copy of the old Yamaha Nmax with minor differences. To give you an idea, the Tucano Urbano cover for the Yamaha Nmax 2016 (r180 model number) fits perfectly on this scooter, tested and confirmed. The LED lights are very nice and effective at night.
- There are no electronic gadgets like applications with settings, GPS tracking, keyless entry, etc. The instrument panel is simple with an automatic day/night mode and good visibility in sunlight. It shows speed, battery percentage, battery voltage indication, motor power (something like RPM), total odometer, and partial odometer (reset by pressing the turn signal lights PASS button five times). The vehicle also has a reverse gear, which is very useful in the city for parking and maneuvering as it is relatively heavy. With the alarm installed by the dealer, there is a button that activates it without using a key (costs 60€). It does not have a connection for upgrades or an OBD connection for controller diagnostics.
- Storage spaces, there are two or three, but without a trunk, a helmet (not even a jet helmet) does not fit. One is under the seat, it can fit a full supermarket bag. Without measuring it, I estimate it to be around 25 liters with low height. The second one is under the handlebars, about 2 liters with a small opening, so it's not easy to fit a bottle. It also has a USB charging port. Finally, there is a third one on the floor between the legs and it looks like a fuel tank. This one opens with the scooter key. I use it to put my coffee or water, but it has depth inside and small items can fit.
- The battery used by this manufacturer is the best on the market. The company CATL supplies batteries to Tesla, Toyota, Volvo, and many others. It is a pioneer in its field, which is why it offers an 8-year warranty or 80,000 km, the longest in the market (that's why I chose this scooter). Its main competitors are Samsung, LG, and Super Socco, which only offer a 2-year warranty. I would recommend avoiding any other brand apart from these four. As for replacing the battery, it will definitely be expensive, but prices will change in the next 8 years. In any case, it can be replaced with another brand, and the depreciation will already have occurred. In the first 1000 km, I have already saved 100 euros on gasoline compared to my diesel car, which is a Euro 7 1300cc with an average consumption of 4.5L/100km and a fuel price of around 2.00€. The battery CANNOT BE REMOVED, so you will need parking or a charging space, and a simple household power outlet is enough.
As for electricity consumption, I didn't see a big difference, I estimate around 4 euros per 1000 km. I will install a meter on the power outlet and come back with statistics.
UPDATE: One detail I didn't mention is that the manufacturer recommends, for the battery's health, not to let it drop below 30% unless necessary (I imagine it doesn't affect the warranty as there is no way to check).So far, I haven't had any issues with the electronics except for two times when it had a glitch and I had to reset the main fuse under the seat. Specifically, one time it wouldn't switch from reverse to normal speed, and another time it wouldn't reset the partial odometer. I don't find it unreasonable for a controller to have minor glitches, but it's not pleasant when it happens.
I have driven it in the rain and on wet roads, and I haven't encountered any problems, but I avoided deep puddles.Upgrades for motors and controllers have started to be done by some workshops slowly. I believe that in a few years, there will be a lot of space and options for upgrades, with the excellent battery and well-built scooter as a solid foundation.
I will follow the discussion for any questions I can answer.
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