I tried to use it for the minced meat for the pasta, where do I start? The color is borderline orange, the consistency is plain water, really tasteless. I'm telling you, I've never seen anything like this before. It didn't thicken AT ALL, the worst I've ever used. And no, it hadn't expired, I checked. (In the end, I added some tomato paste to the minced meat and it worked fine, but not from the same company). Stay away, kids